Kitten prices

[CathyW]

now im talking about the moggie here. not pedigrees.
just some poor girl cat who got caught by the neighbourhood tom,
and they are asking 100 quid for them :shock: these are little black n white babies. but not a cross or anything. just some one whos greedy and hopes to make some money. just hope who ever it is they use some of the money to take their girl cat to the vets and get her spayed.

[Moli]

now im talking about the moggie here. not pedigrees.
just some poor girl cat who got caught by the neighbourhood tom,
and they are asking 100 quid for them :shock: these are little black n white babies. but not a cross or anything. just some one whos greedy and hopes to make some money. just hope who ever it is they use some of the money to take their girl cat to the vets and get her spayed.
Doubt that BM, if they managed to see them for £100 pounds each, they will just breed her again...Money making, no regard for the poor cat!:twisted:

[CathyW]

Doubt that BM, if they managed to see them for £100 pounds each, they will just breed her again...Money making, no regard for the poor cat!:twisted:and knowing the type of ppl who live around here, thers a good chance they are getting dss money. wonder if they will let them know about their *earnings*????

[Moli]

Doubt it!! We have a few like that not far from me, dogs, cats, rabbits anything to make money...!!

[angieh]

Poor little cat! But in truth, would you pay £100 for a little moggie? Perhaps I'm really behind the times and I can't speak, as I've never paid any money for either of my cats. Merlin was passed on to me and it was either that or he would have been "disposed of" and Smudge chose me to be her carer.

[Mags]

I paid £20 for Cassie 11 years ago. :?

[Fran]

I paid £100 for Clooney and was pefectly happy to do so. He was just what I was looking for, lots of time and effort had gone into socialising the litter who were healthy, happy and curious. He has never given me a minutes worry and is the loveliest, healthiest cat you could wish to meet. Porsha on the other hand, was £350 pedigree Siamese and has a vets bill as long as my arm, has lifelong cronic conditions, is not show nor breeding quality as she was supposed to be and has given me endless sleepless nights with worry over her. I think that speaks volumes really :?

[dandysmom]

Oh, that so so sad! Poor little mum cat. But do you really think people will pay that inflated price for a little moggy kitten? Hopefully, if they do they'll take good care of him/her.....protect the investment ..

[angieh]

Yes, I think you are right there Eileen. If you are going to pay a fairly large sum for a cat, HOPEFULLY you would look after it very well. Shows commitment I suppose. But I have to say I have never loved my cats any less for not having paid anything for them.

[kado]

I paid £35 for Kay, £45 for Kado and £50 for Troy and Chester. Simon i was given and Guinness i rescued.

[bobbie3917]

i have never paid for a moggy, the people selling them for 100 might find them hard to sell as there will be many black and white kittens out there, i can see why some one might pay for a kitten is it was the colour that they wanted like Fran did

[candyshandy]

Apparently there are areas in the country with a kitten shortage - I wish the rescues would get their heads together. The local rescue could do the homecheck and then the adoptees could go and collect the kitten - as long as not to far away.

[dandysmom]

Misty found me, I rehomed Patches and Leia, no charge, I paid $25.00 for Su-ling (Siamese) way back in the early 70s, $50.00 for Sultan (Aby) in the 80s, and $300.00 for Dandy (Singapura) in the 90s.

For the record, the fee here in Washington at the Humane Society to rehome a cat is $65.00. Spay/neuter and shots included in the fee....

[Kazz]

I have never paid a thing for any of my cats.

And if I were asked for that ai would walk away.

However if I rehomed from a "proper" rescue like CP for instance, I would happily donate about £100 there abouts to cover their costs and offset those who pay nothing..or very little.

[angieh]

I have never paid a thing for any of my cats.

And if I were asked for that ai would walk away.

However if I rehomed from a "proper" rescue like CP for instance, I would happily donate about £100 there abouts to cover their costs and offset those who pay nothing..or very little.

Thanks Kazz - always helpful to know "in the region of" - and I am perfectly happy to accept that a "donation" to a cat rescue is quite different to "paying" an individual for a kittie.

[Kazz]

Thanks Kazz - always helpful to know "in the region of" - and I am perfectly happy to accept that a "donation" to a cat rescue is quite different to "paying" an individual for a kittie.


There again can't see me getting another cat from a pet home, a such as I will only have moggies and they will come from rescues such a the CP. :-D ...if and when I get another cat that is.

[kado]

Troy and Chesters mum has now being spayed and so has her daughter from the last litter so i know what i brought them for went to getting something done. I wouldnt have beign allowed to have any cats where i am living through the Rspca or cp as i live in a upstairs flat. I never regreted buying them the only thing i regret is that i never went back for Kado's brother.

jane

[Kazz]

Troy and Chesters mum has now being spayed and so has her daughter from the last litter so i know what i brought them for went to getting something done. I wouldnt have beign allowed to have any cats where i am living through the Rspca or cp as i live in a upstairs flat. I never regreted buying them the only thing i regret is that i never went back for Kado's brother.

jane

See as far as I would be concerned living in an upstars flat should not preclude anyone from having a cat the CP adn other rescues who turned you down have in effect boosted the cat pet market while losing a good home for a rescue......shame. Although I know not all recues think like this it does appear to be a personal "area" descision.

[random]

I paid for mine but not even half of that, except Jennie who I think was £50, not sure, but a donation to the rescue.

Nipper and Tucker I wasn't charged for as they were born to a stray cat on my pal's farm, but I did give her about £50 I think, for the 2 of them, for what she had spent on them as she took in the mum and kittens and did everything right for them and kept mum.

Tabs I paid £2 for back in 1993.

Vitaani I think I gave the woman £30, she wasn't really for sale but had been kept in a cage since the lady got her and was still only about 6 weeks old when I got her, so left mum very early and the lady who got her, well god only knows why she got her to put in a cage. Anyway, I sort of bribed her to let me have her for money and she did. Enough said really!

Kiara I think I paid £400 for. She was being fostered by the breeder of her mum as her mum's owner had to go into a woman's refuge suddenly and had to give back her cats to their breeder which included Kiara's mum and their litter. I could have had Kiara or one from another litter which was the breeder's actual litter but I fell for the sob story of Kiara's litter.

And Anakin I paid £40 for, which I regret fueling but, well, you know the story behind him and the only thing I regret more is not being able to take all 3 kittens.

[random]

Troy and Chesters mum has now being spayed and so has her daughter from the last litter so i know what i brought them for went to getting something done. I wouldnt have beign allowed to have any cats where i am living through the Rspca or cp as i live in a upstairs flat. I never regreted buying them the only thing i regret is that i never went back for Kado's brother.

jane

CP wouldn't let me have one either as I had a child under 5 years, despite him already living with a cat and 3 dogs when I was looking and being completely fine with them, they refused to even to come out and meet him so I could show them he was good with all animals.

[Luke]

I paid £100 for Clooney and was pefectly happy to do so. He was just what I was looking for, lots of time and effort had gone into socialising the litter who were healthy, happy and curious. He has never given me a minutes worry and is the loveliest, healthiest cat you could wish to meet. Porsha on the other hand, was £350 pedigree Siamese and has a vets bill as long as my arm, has lifelong cronic conditions, is not show nor breeding quality as she was supposed to be and has given me endless sleepless nights with worry over her. I think that speaks volumes really :?
Speaks volumes really, i'd willingly pay decent money for a well raised moggy kitten.
And as the last time a rescue of any sort homed a cat too us was about 1993, I think this will always be the options. It's always a firm NO when they've met our dogs past [staffords & dobes, n latter a russel] and present [the russel before she passed on, the wee xbred terrier and the springer]; the springer spaniel was denounced too hyper for cats and all the rest would apparently destroy them. Oh and we were an end house with a tiny driveway road going to 5 houses at the back of us, on the most deadest cul-de-sac ever; but clearly-death trap.

[dandysmom]

The reasons I've read since I've been on Catsey for refusing to rehome a cat just boggle my mind ........:( :shock:
Better to languish on at the Rescue rather than go to a loving home in an upstairs flat, to a home with dogs who get along well with cats or a well-behaved child who has been taught how to get along nicely with them, to a good home on a cul-de-sac......it does make you question their priorities.......

[kado]

i totaly agreee with you dandysmom. I knew we wouldnt be able too rehome from a rescue so i didint try. I was getting guinness brother and was let down 2 days before i was due too pick him up. I was so upset i looked in the local paper and found kado. Apart from what he cost he had an eye infection which cost us £40 the next day. i dont begrudge a penny ive spent on all of my cats they keep me sane and give me a purpose.

[dandysmom]

Kado, I wonder if I lived in the UK I'd be allowed to rehome? I do live on a busy heavily trafficed street and near a woods where there are foxes, raccoons, opossums, etc. Which is exactly why mine have always been indoor harness trained cats. But I have a feeling I might not be approved....especially as I don't have a cat flap (another reason I've read for being turned down!)

[CathyW]

mine where quite happy to be *indoor* cats for a couple of years. and i found i didnt worry about them, roads ect. mine go out now, but dont go far,and they are indoors by 8/9 pm and when its dark they are in even earlier. black cats on a dark road. (shudders)
and both my boys where freebees. i knew their *human mum* quite well and she know i would look after kittens.
theres alot of *cash cows* around here, staffies are favorite, always on the boards for sale. and as the weeks go on u can see the prices drop.

[Kazz]

Sometimes I think rescues be it dog or cat see life through "rose coloured blinkered glasses, and live in perfect World".....seriously I was turned down by a SBT rescue to take on a Stafford because I had cats "Oscar and Cleo" and worked full time...............I went and brought Gyp....who lived happily alongside the cats, who by the way had always lived with Staffords. :)

Then I was stupidly applied to a rescue for a kitten, about 15 years ago, (they were in the paper, you know heartbreak story) the reasons given were numerous.

A I live on a council estate.
B Had a Dog....
C. Woe of woes a Stafford, major downfall.
D. Already had two adult established cats.
E. Worked full time.
F. Had a cat flap........

So I can see why people go out and buy a cat/kitten.

[Kim]

So can I Kazz. However not all rescues are as 'fussy' as CP. Our local Animal Sanctuary are much more reasonable and I would much rather re-home form them and know the money I pay is helping the other animals and something towards the huge cost of keeping the sanctuary going. I think to pay someone £100 is ridiculous, I expect, if they get that they will think that was easy money and repeat the process without a thought for the poor cat. To pay that is just encouraging them. :(

Edited to add, I have just re-read my post and it may sound like I am criticising CP, which I am not. I think they are a wonderful organisation, but a set ofrules, doesn't necesarily fit all.

[Phoenix]

We payed £70 for Beauty (got her from a charity) and it was money well spent! :D

With the charity she came from, as long as the charity think you are suitable and know what you are doing any why you want a cat, they are quite happy for you to take the cat that very day!

[Soupie]

I personally wouldn't buy a moggie kitten as I have my own beliefs on breeding of moggies although I appreciate accidents can and do happen. There is a growing trend of breeding moggies to sell which makes me feel uncomfortable.

All our moggie kittens/feral kittens not from rescues or charities have been free.

I have and will donate to a charity/rescue when I have had kittens and cats from them.

[angieh]

Reading all the above comments does make me seriously question where the CP rehoming "rules" come from. I'd really like to know.

To deny a cat/kitten rehoming in a loving house where a nice child already lives happily with animals - words fail me! How do they think that parents can bring their kids up to treat animals with respect and kindness if they aren't allowed to adopt an animal! No wonder "other means" have stepped into the gap. Market forces etc. etc.

[dandysmom]

Beautifully put, Angie, agree 100% !!!

[littlelinnie]

thats whats happening me with my kitten I am paying £40 even tho its a moggie.. the woman thinks its a bengal x because the mother has stripes on her.. she doesn't know who the father is.. shes got another cat she thinks is a persian x because someone down the road told her ( who's got Persians) that because her cats blue.. it must be a persian crossed with something else.. because blue is a persian colour .... so shes selling them kittens for £80 each.. just because of that.. they are both moggies!

[smudgley]

Reading all the above comments does make me seriously question where the CP rehoming "rules" come from. I'd really like to know.

To deny a cat/kitten rehoming in a loving house where a nice child already lives happily with animals - words fail me! How do they think that parents can bring their kids up to treat animals with respect and kindness if they aren't allowed to adopt an animal! No wonder "other means" have stepped into the gap. Market forces etc. etc.

All CP branches are run by volunteers & they have guidelines set by the Head Office, but flexibility is allowed within those guidelines.

However CP branches should not be turning people down for having children/dogs/living in a flat/working/having a catflap or any other nonsense reason.

If anyone on here wants to adopt a CP rescue kitten / cat they can do so from me. All I need to know is that a loving home is offered. :)

[angieh]

Just come back from my local Express shop. There is a handwritten notice on their board - kittens for sale 2 males grey tabbies and a female B&W £30 each. Now I am assuming because the note is handwritten and on a piece of ordinary notepaper that this is an "ordinary" person who is trying to find homes for the kittens. Am I being naive???

Thank you Smudgley - I'd certainly be delighted to come to you as and when there is a vacancy here!

[alexgirl73]

Our CP branch won't rehome kittens to homes with under 5's but will rehome older cats to them. One of the HV are really strict with things, but the others are much more open with their criteria. It drives me mad when people are refused for the stupidest things. I really think there should be very clear guidelines.

[smudgley]

Our CP branch won't rehome kittens to homes with under 5's but will rehome older cats to them. One of the HV are really strict with things, but the others are much more open with their criteria. It drives me mad when people are refused for the stupidest things. I really think there should be very clear guidelines.

:evil: I think if people with young children want a cat then surely a kitten is the way to go so they can grow up together & a kitten would be more tolerant.

I went to a CP day about a year ago, with a talk by Ian Farrar about why we SHOULD be rehoming cats to people with children under 5. :roll:

[dandysmom]

For the record, I was about 5 when we got Scamper,the ginger semi-longhaired tom I grew up with. And I certainly learned how to live with, respect and love cats!

[diskinc]

I've just rehomed two 10 month old kittens from the CP without a problem but then I own my own home, live on a quiet street and have no children or dogs.

A friend was told by her local RSPCA that as she worked full-time she would only be allowed cats that were 7+.

This kind of restrictive ruling also happens with other animals, there used to be a rabbit rescue that would only rehome as a house rabbit and even then it had to have the run of a minimum of 5 rooms!

[alexgirl73]

:evil: I think if people with young children want a cat then surely a kitten is the way to go so they can grow up together & a kitten would be more tolerant.

I went to a CP day about a year ago, with a talk by Ian Farrar about why we SHOULD be rehoming cats to people with children under 5. :roll:

I completely agree with you Smudgley. That's why I think CP hq should make a set of rules for ALL branches to stick to!

[random]

For the record, I was about 5 when we got Scamper,the ginger semi-longhaired tom I grew up with. And I certainly learned how to live with, respect and love cats!

And you must have seen the pic I posted of myself when I was about 3, with my first cat Thomas.

I rang round a few of the different fosterers in my area for the CP when I was looking to rehome a cat before I got Kiara and they all said no to families with under 5's and I was also told no because of the dogs, even though I protested both my dogs and my son were fine with cats as I already had a senior cat who was here before any of the dogs or my son. But what annoyed me the most is that they wouldn't even send anyone round to check, I asked them to send the homechecker round at least so I could prove what I was saying and they basically told me to come back in 3 years or so. My son was 5 this year and I got all of my cats (bar Anakin obviously) before he turned 5 and we have never had a single problem with him and the animals, he is excellent with them, he knew how to handle a weimaraner for showing when he was 3 years old, he has a lot of respect and knowledge for the animals for his age and it's such a shame as i'm sure there are a lot of other children who have been denied the companionship of a rescue animal. JMO.

[random]

I was also told they required one person in the household to be working full time. Well there was only myself and my son who was 2 years old and I only worked part time. I didn't argue my case with that one though as I had already been declined due to my son and the dogs on top of that.

[smudgley]

I completely agree with you Smudgley. That's why I think CP hq should make a set of rules for ALL branches to stick to!

Yes Alex, that's a good idea. Rules / uidelines whch must be adhered to, so there would be consistency throughout. :cool:

[smudgley]

We struggle enough to find homes for the cats and I think we must be one of the least restricting CP branches there are. I wonder how these other branches find homes for any of the cats, or indeed find perfect fosterers :shock:
I work full time, have kids, dogs and cats!

[dandysmom]

Have to work full time, Random? What about us retired people who have loads of time to dote on, love and spoil the cats? Some of those rules for not rehomng are absolutely nonsensical...I wish everyone were as sensible as Smudgley!!

[random]

Have to work full time, Random? What about us retired people who have loads of time to dote on, love and spoil the cats? Some of those rules for not rehomng are absolutely nonsensical...I wish everyone were as sensible as Smudgley!!

I suppose it might be different if you are retired? :? That's a good point. I just thought working part time would be better as i'd have more time at home with kitty! After all, I could have been working part time for £100 an hour if it was a money issue, they didn't ask that much, just said they required at least one person to be working in a proper full time job.

I also rang the RSPCA and they said the same about having a child under 5 and I didn't bother asking about the rest or even trying to pursue it any further.

[Kim]

Totally agree Random. If children grow up with animals and are expected to show respect from them from the start, then I can't see a problem. These children are our future responsible pet owners! We owned 3 cats when my children were born, so they have never known a home without pets. My son is 20 and my daughter 18 and they both love animals and have the utmost respect for them. I htink it makes them kinder, more loving individuals. My daugher is doing her A levels at the moment, and if she is stressed, she cuddles her cat!

[Moli]

I applied to the CP long time ago, before I got the boys, but as I had staffys no chance...
But, now I am suitable to foster feral kittens, I still have staffys and now a boxer too...:roll: and 5 cats...:roll:

[littlelinnie]

this is very silly.. don't they want children who will in 10 years or so grow up to be good owners and respect animals??
I have never tried to get a cat of them but I think I wouldn't get one anyway.. I have a Big German Shepard ( altho hes brill with cats and hes only 9 months) I have reptiles and I have a daughter whos 5 and due to my oh being ill I am hes registered carer and my daughter has Asd so I am her Carer aswell so none of us work.. I simply wouldn't have the time to work with my oh and my daughter.. he can't work because hes ill... seems very unfair to me.. I wouldn't like being treated like a child and being told I couldn't have a cat because I am in a situation where I simply can't work..there for I have had to go and buy a cat the same with all my animals.. me and my oh are striaght edge people we don't go out partying or anything so one of our enjoyments in our life is our animals who we treat like part of the family.. why should we not be allowed that because we have a child and can't work?? :(

[random]

this is very silly.. don't they want children who will in 10 years or so grow up to be good owners and respect animals??
I have never tried to get a cat of them but I think I wouldn't get one anyway.. I have a Big German Shepard ( altho hes brill with cats and hes only 9 months) I have reptiles and I have a daughter whos 5 and due to my oh being ill I am hes registered carer and my daughter has Asd so I am her Carer aswell so none of us work.. I simply wouldn't have the time to work with my oh and my daughter.. he can't work because hes ill... seems very unfair to me.. I wouldn't like being treated like a child and being told I couldn't have a cat because I am in a situation where I simply can't work..there for I have had to go and buy a cat the same with all my animals.. me and my oh are striaght edge people we don't go out partying or anything so one of our enjoyments in our life is our animals who we treat like part of the family.. why should we not be allowed that because we have a child and can't work?? :(

This is what my father went through with getting Jennie, he does not work as he has been rendered to permanent sick/disability. He used to be a professional decorator, had his own business with my cousin but he fell off his ladder and fractured his neck, he has metal plates in his neck now but still has a lot of pain.

When we were looking for Jennie we didn't even bother with the CP as we knew what they would say and so went to our local rescue centre as a friend of the family works there and pulled us a few strings when he heard we were looking for a kitten. I couldn't tell you what their rules are normally though.

[angieh]

I completely agree with you Smudgley. That's why I think CP hq should make a set of rules for ALL branches to stick to!

I agree that consistency across various CP branches would be an excellent idea - but really only if the rules that HQ set out were sensible, promoted safe re-homing, allowed animals to be re-homed in loving homes where children of any age were present - and thereby allowing parents to take responsibility for teaching their children to care for a pet (vital, IMO) and allow re-homing to loving homes where other animals were present, so long as they rubbed along with each other on a reasonable basis.

Some branches will only re-home kittens if someone is at home all the time and others will only re-home if someone is working full-time - all seems demanding a "traditional" home and taking no account of individual cases or circumstances and thereby denying needy cat/kittens the potential to have a loving, caring home whatever the makeup of it might be. And, from various experiences mentioned in posts above not taking any account of what individuals have to offer.

Eeek I could go on - but I think we all think alike on this issue, don't we???

[yola]

This is a discussion I've had with our co-ordinator (in our CP branch). She's quite flexible and has a job getting some of the more officious home checkers to toe her line - i.e., unless a cat has a specific reason for not going to a home with children or othercats/dogs then all should be considered!

I took Darcy on when Dominik was 2. I took Myshka on when Sebastian was 1 1/2!! Both boys respect the cats and I make sure they do. I can understand why sometimes people are reluctant to rehome as there are parents out there who will not supervise their small children around pets and will then throw the cat out for scratching a kid when all it's doing is fighting back!

But back to the question of paying lots of money for a moggy? Afraid not. It's just fuelling the greed of the breeder and condoning their actions. I can completely understand how difficult it can be to refuse when faced with a cute bundle and sometime the unspoken 'threat' of what would happen if they were not all sold but really it is best to always walk away.

[Jem]

This will make you all laugh then, when charlie and patti died Snoopy was on her own so myself n my O/H went to CP to have a look at a cat any age any sex we just wanted a companion for Snoopy.
We live in the middle of nowhere, not near any roads, surrounded by fields and have a semi enclosed garden, I dont work but my O/H does, we had no dogs at that time and we have no kids and I was told that my situation was NOT ideal to rehome a cat from the CP!!!!! :roll:
I could have understood if we had specific requirements for the cat we were looking for but all we said was as long as it gets on well with other cats, we would have quite happily taken a older moggy to live out her days with us but we were not suitable. :roll:
So I found a small rescue centre near me and got peanuts.
If they stay this strict they will always have problems rehoming as no-one will even bother ringing to ask about any cats they have in.

[dandysmom]

Coincidentally there was a long article about this very problem in today's Washington Post; the difficulties put in the way of people seeking to adopt. I thought it might be interesting to you all to see the situation here in my area..... hope this link will copy!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060802239.html?hpid=topnews

[Mags]

Coincidentally there was a long article about this very problem in today's Washington Post; the difficulties put in the way of people seeking to adopt. I thought it might be interesting to you all to see the situation here in my area..... hope this link will copy!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060802239.html?hpid=topnews

My goodness Eileen, seems it's just as bad over there to adopt a pet :? I agree they have to make sure the animal isn't going to a home where it will be neglected or abused but a line has to be drawn somewhere, some of the requirements tend to be a bit ridiculous and over the top.

[dandysmom]

I was delighted to read, however, that the Washington Humane Society is eliminating the dreaded home visit!! That's where I'll go if and when I need to rehome; Leia is healthy as a horse and only 9 so hopefully will be many many years down the road....

[angieh]

Well in a way it's reassuring to know that England isn't the only country in the world that's gone mad.

I was wondering if we haven't got a brood of little dictators from somewhere - except of course that dictators don't tend to like cats at all!!!!

[yola]

Angie - you've hit the nail on the head! The woman that headed up our CP previously ran it as if it were her own little empire. Thankfully she's now been 'removed'. There is a real need to modernise the organisation to take into account modern lifestyles. Otherwise you're right - no cat will ever get rehomed!!

[yola]

Oh, and I was going to add; it's also a bit like adopting a child. In the pre-children days when I'd been told it was going to be nearly medically impossible for me to conceive naturally we went a long way down the adoption route (don't always listen to the doctors).

Oh my goodness, I've never experienced anything so completely soul-destroying in my life. People would make judgements based on ticking a box and not really bothering to understand anything about us, our situation or what we had to offer.

I think situations such as these really highlight the fact that those in control of the adoption process - feline or human (and please don't think I'm comparing the two like-for-like as obviously I realise the criteria have to reflect certain key differentials), really need to humanise the whole arrangement to make it workable and more approachable overall.

[Fran]

This will make you all laugh then, when charlie and patti died Snoopy was on her own so myself n my O/H went to CP to have a look at a cat any age any sex we just wanted a companion for Snoopy.
We live in the middle of nowhere, not near any roads, surrounded by fields and have a semi enclosed garden, I dont work but my O/H does, we had no dogs at that time and we have no kids and I was told that my situation was NOT ideal to rehome a cat from the CP!!!!! :roll:
I could have understood if we had specific requirements for the cat we were looking for but all we said was as long as it gets on well with other cats, we would have quite happily taken a older moggy to live out her days with us but we were not suitable. :roll:
So I found a small rescue centre near me and got peanuts.
If they stay this strict they will always have problems rehoming as no-one will even bother ringing to ask about any cats they have in.


No wonder there are so many cats in rescue :roll: ....I am beginning to have little sympathy for the rescues tbh

[dandysmom]

Well said, Yola. It's not a one-size-fits-all situation! I suppose it's much more work to look at and evaluate each case on its own than to have a rigid set of guidelines, and if the wrong box is ticked....forget about it!

And the little dictators running their own fief...power corrupts........

[Kay]

No wonder there are so many cats in rescue :roll: ....I am beginning to have little sympathy for the rescues tbh


I have to agree with you there Fran. They are always going on about neutering because there are not enough homes for the cats/kittens that are in rescue. Well there won't be if they keep making ridiculous rules. The way they are acting is just promoting moggy byb as people that have been refused by a rescue will still want a kitten/cat and will have no choice but to buy from them. A very sad situation all round. :( :roll:

[Patch]

[I have`nt posted for ages so I apologise for diving in, and I have`nt read the whole thread, I`m posting as it`s an apt topic to me at the moment ].

A friend wanted a cat, she contacted a local rescue, she was turned down because of her postcode, [ I know the woman who runs the rescue, she is completely potty and has weird idea`s about what makes a person suitable or not :roll: ].

My friend was also given the impression that adopting means `rescues take back animals off people if they need them`... [ I`ve put her straight on that one :lol: ]

ANyway, instead of doing the sensible thing and contacting other rescues, she started scouring ads for kittens. SHe bought a Russian Blue crossbreed - for £250 :shock:
A few days later she bought another crossbreed boy, and the latest, [ last weekend ], she buys another Russian Blue crossbreed, [ a different crossing to the first one ], and paid £200 for her.

Her husband has apparently said she has to breed them as he wants to see a return after laying out that kind of money [ insert appropriate swear words at such disgusting attitude :smt075 :smt075 :smt075 :smt075 :smt075 ]

She reckons all these breeders she contacted when looking for the two she finally got for stupid money are selling theirs ok at those prices so why should`nt she do it too ? [ dont know how much the second boy way but probably around the same price as she clearly falls easily for designer breeder spiel ].
I explained to her about how disgustingly unethical it would be if she goes ahead, went into hereditary factors which she was oblivious of and even when I explained it to her she did`nt give a rats behind, things like caesareans if needed, kittens getting stuck in the birth canal etc, and how would she cope if her husband was on a night time work emergency and she had to get her two toddlers out of bed so she could get the cat to the vet, [ if the cat was still alive by the time she`d finished dressing the kids and all that ], homeless cat numbers, what if a cat were born deaf or blind or some other issue so she would`nt get her stupid money there, what about selling cats which have to be returned and can she take them all back yadda yadda, all the usual things which anyone with an ounce of sense should consider when becoming a breeder, but she just shrugged her shoulders and said "oh well, everyone else does it and theirs are ok" :smt091

So basically she is going to churn out crossbreed to crossbreed litters thinking she`ll get £200 plus each, [ and with people around like her who will pay it as she has done no doubt she`ll get that kind of money too :? ].

I`m going to print out some articles for her to read but I know it won`t make any difference, she has already made up her mind. She said she just won`t tell me when she`s caused a litter so that `she did`nt upset me over it` - I told her we won`t be speaking at all by then as I can`t abide deliberate back yard breeders because they are complete scum as far as I`m concerned so if she goes that route I won`t be associating with her full stop, I don`t want to be around unscrupulous crappy money grabbing animal users like that.

So the upshot is, because of one rescue being run by a batty woman putting off someone who at the time was more than happy to adopt a neutered moggie for company, a new back yard breeder is being created because of now being aware of the stupid prices `designer cross` kittens are going for, it had never even crossed her tiny mind before three weeks ago when she got the boys :(

I now feel like a complete failure as well because I was`nt able to talk her out of it despite giving her every reason in the book not to become the sort of vile back yard breeder I utterly despise :?

[dandysmom]

What a sorry situation, Patch! You did your best to dissuade her to no avail....what a pity.

[kado]

You did your best. Some people will never listen.

[angieh]

Oh dear Patch - you certainly did try you best. This person's karma is not at the right stage to hear what you've said. That's not your fault.

[dandysmom]

Patch, it brings to mind the lyric from the old song" When will they ever learn,,,,,,,,?"
So sad.

[Kim]

Stupid woman - when will people ever learn. You did your best, maybe she will think about what you said.......

[Nutmegsmum]

We paid £30.00 for Nutmeg and Beau was free to a good home.

My brother recently paid £100 for his kitten, but that seems the price that they are being sold in our area.

[Amie]

I paid £35 for Oliver 7 years ago, he came with a carrier scratch post and about a million fleas:shock: Vet said he would of been Dead if left much Longer:( and the owner was a manager of Pets@home:mad:

[calismum]

£100 for moggies in pet shop near me.

[Rockmaiden]

I know this is an old topic but I thought I would let you all know the re-homing regulations at the RSPCA branch I work for.

We will not re-home kittens to anyone with a child under the age of 2 years, simply because kittens scratch and can harm a child and also because little children don't know not to squeeze, smack etc. little cats. If an adopter has a child under 2 years then we will only re-home a cat over 1 year to them. Other then that children are no restriction.

We also do not mind about exisiting cats or dogs as long as they are happy and well cared for it's fine with us. We do ensure that all their existing animals are neutered as we do not want to be re-homing to 'backyard' breeders.

In terms of working we do not mind if you work full time, part time, retired or on benifits. With cats and dogs we ask that if you are on benifits then you must register with the PDSA simply because of how expensive vets bills can be in un-expected emergencies and we do not want adopter's to be in a situation where they cannot afford it and by registering the help is there if they ever need it.

We are quite flexible and always consider the animals best needs after all being in rescue is not very good for them.

[onekidney]

Paid £20 for Tidus. Quite a lot of animals in the house we got him from, so were happy to pay it just to get him out

[Tsega & Orion]

I paid £100 for my bengal kitten. He was the runt of the litter and I have to pay extra to get his injections done as he was too little when the breeder took the others.

£100 for a moggie is unbelievable!

[mattde]

I did a website for payment of one of my Maine Coon kittens :-) ,
After a dog next, anyone want a website in return ;-)

[CathyW]

now im talking about the moggie here. not pedigrees.
just some poor girl cat who got caught by the neighbourhood tom,
and they are asking 100 quid for them :shock: these are little black n white babies. but not a cross or anything. just some one whos greedy and hopes to make some money. just hope who ever it is they use some of the money to take their girl cat to the vets and get her spayed.
hey guess what her poor mummy cat was pregnant again.and shes selling the kittens again. that poor little girl cat.
the owners are out allday and i see her on the doorstep waiting for the owners to come home.

[angieh]

That is so sad boys mum. That poor little cat.

[fancyabrew]

got Chloe from the RSPCA, £50 for a BSH silver tab! and she'd been at the RSPCA 3 times!

[jan]

I have only ever paid for one cat out of all of mine over the years, whoops, not quite right, I also had 3 cats from the RSPCA but I dont really count that as payment for my cats as I recall it included speying in the cost. I have either been told of kittens wanting a good home, or a kitten has found me by being lost and brought to me. Just my last cat Maisie - she was advertised in the paper and was local and I paid £20 for her. I was quite shocked by the fact people were selling them actually, that was almost 3 years ago. Occasionally I still see free to good home but less and less. I think Maisie s Mum was allowed to have litter after litter, she was nt much older than one when I had Maisie so I hope they have stopped now. She was supposed to be wormed but she was full of fleas so I doubt it very much, if they could nt be bothered to flea her that they wormed her. I suppose £20 is fair enough in that if you pay something maybe you really do need to be after a kitten and just not have one on a whim. Jx

[moonstone]

A pet shop near to where i live (Chingford,essex) had a little black/white boy in their shop and they wanted a whopping £140 for him:shock: he was gorgeous but just a little moggie kit that they probably got free:(
When i asked the shop owner about him she said that they had 9 more due in for sale and some were fluffy so they would be even dearer:shock:
Thing is if people are prepared to pay that much for non pedigree kittens then it will encourage breeding:(

[John]

hey guess what her poor mummy cat was pregnant again.and shes selling the kittens again. that poor little girl cat.
the owners are out allday and i see her on the doorstep waiting for the owners to come home.

makes you feel like you want to do a bit of cat napping..:-D

[Moli]

I recently ehard of a person with 3 pregant females all in the same house, she was going to buy a new kitchen when she sold the kittens!!!!:evil:

[dandysmom]

Almost makes you want to cry, doesn't it, Moli? Sickening, so sad ......

[Moli]

Everytime she wants something her 3 cats have kittens,its terrible, those poor girls!:(

[janey83]

Tigger was free from someone my auntie knew. Leo was £70 from a not nice animal shelter and Jake was a weak n skinny stray so we adopted him. :-)

[Leesy]

Charkie my first cat I rescued of a farm as a kitten and I didn`t pay anything for him, he was a big gorgeous tabby cat, who I sadly lost at the too young age of 8 yrs old:smt049 :smt049 , still miss him terribly.
Maxi and Maisy I bought for £375 from a Maine Coon breeder.

Don`t think I would stand much of a chance in getting a cat then from CP, from what I have read as I am a childminder with children of various ages coming and going.
Maxi and Maisy just love being around the children and are happy, well looked after, pampered kittys.

[MadCatLady]

OK... in the defence of our rescue centre... Devils Advocate here... but this does not follow with all 'animal rescue' centres :?


We charge £50 adopation fee as standard which in no way re-coupes our outgoing spend (although your choosen cat/kitten may only be with us for a short period & requires no medical treatment ALL our monies are chaneled into the animals) :)



We do not have 'issues' with young children in fact we encourage families to have pets as we believe it makes for a more balanced & caring society! :p



If you wish to keep the cat as an indoor pet, that is your choice, as long as you provide it with love and activities! :cat1



The cat remains our property and as such we require proof of neutering (if necessary), vaccinations & insurance & if for ANY you can no longer support the animal it must be returned to us! The adoption fee is NOT refundable :roll:


We give free advice and always encourage new owners to join sites like this for support... :-D

However we have discovered that if you give something away it is treated with NO respect and in this throw away society it is more likely to be dis-respected :cry:

OK ... rant over... anyone???? :cool: Now kitten prices in general.... people actually believe they will make money from their 'pets' but if you are caring for the mother - good quality kitten food, vaccinations up to date, worming etc - then looking after the litter - worming & flea treatments, good food again & general care etc then you won't make money unless you are charging a massive amount!!! :roll: And unfortunately some 'people' think thats all there 'pets' are good for.... personally I think if you need a license to drive or run a pub why not for having children or owning a pet....? :twisted:

[Frog]

We almost paid £80 for an 'accidenal' kitten without thinking anything of it. Until a switch flicked & I realised that if he was getting £80 x 5 kittens (£400!!!) then he'd obviously keep breeding her! So just in time we decided not to go ahead & got Charlie from a shelter. Its discusting, really X

[dandysmom]

We almost paid £80 for an 'accidenal' kitten without thinking anything of it. Until a switch flicked & I realised that if he was getting £80 x 5 kittens (£400!!!) then he'd obviously keep breeding her! So just in time we decided not to go ahead & got Charlie from a shelter. Its discusting, really X

Well done you! If only more people realized that!!!!

[MadCatLady]

Good you made that decision Frog & Frog2!!

My only worry being what will he do with the kittens if he doesn't sell them.... there are bad people out there!!

[louise_81]

Ive not got a cat, yet!

But I do have 4 rabbits 3 are second chancers and one is a rescue. I paid £45 for my rescue rabbit, he came neutered vaccedx2, vet checked and bunny runned to me. 2 of my buns came to me free, and I spend around £150 each to get the same as I did with my rescue.

The cat I am planning on getting, is free, and is just weaning her kittens (don't get me started!, apparently he's done me a favour!), but again, my local RSPCA is only open when I am at work, so it completely puts me out of the picture with them! There are a few others, but I have heard bad things about them.

I am very much into campaigning, or just shouting! on things that I think are wrong. I have put ads on my local gum tree explaining that the cost of moggies from back street breeders is far too much and to go to local rescues. I know it is hypocritical of me, but at the same time, I have looked into it and considered it as an option.

Anyway, sorry for the long first post :D

[laragreg]

:cry:
Its a sad fact that people use cats to make money you only need to look in all the free ads to see it dsh kittens being sold for £20 to £100 and most haven't had any vet treatment but when there are people out there that will pay the money it isnt going to stop :evil: , then on the other hand you have free kittens what happens to them from what I hear some of them are used for more breeding or sent to labs for tests ect,

People are now selling crosses for £190 +, I know when I got my ragdoll I had to sign a contract saying that I would have her spayed and had to supply proof to the breeder before I got my pedagree cert:) .

[lizziejayne66]

sounds like they just after money.ive seen moggies advertised for free, some £20 or £30 but £100 is way too much
i did read though that no one should sell them forfree ortoo cheaply too stop people buying them for testing

[MrsFigg]

I think that if people ask a reasonable amount for moggie kittens say £40-80 then it helps prevent people buying on a whim. I'd hope that some of the money they get from the sale of kittens would go to pay for the neutering of the mum, dad or both.
I believe that if someone is prepared to pay that kind of money for a kitten then they will also be less likely to balk at paying for vaccinationas and future neutering. I know there are people who wouldn't want to pay for a kitten and also wouldn't dream of forking out £60 for vaccinations for the kitten or consider paying for neutering, possibly adding to the number of kittens down the line.
In the past I have had cats that have come to me as very low cost kittens but they got the same treatment as any cat that I paid £300 for.

[Johelian]

I must admit that I paid £100 each for my moggie kittens (my adult was a rescue from the RSPCA and I dont really consider his adoption fee as a price). I would desperately have loved to adopt a kitten from a rescue; however the same RSPCA that we got Frazier from would not entertain us due to the fact that we work full time. Even when I applied to have Frazier, an adult cat of approx. 3 years old, the woman who took my application was very difficult with me. I distinctly got the impression that she was very smug and took great satisfaction in turning people that werent deemed "suitable" down. Conversely, the lady who did the homecheck was lovely. Then there is also the issue of the rescue not being open after 4pm, which makes getting to them at any time except weekends really hard and consequently its almost impossible to get there when there are still kittens available. I suppose all of this just sounds like excuses, but I really did find it very demoralising trying to find a kitten to rescue. I really didn't want to bring another adult into the house as Frazier can be a bit unpredictable with "strange" adult cats, but is fine with kittens.

Reese came in very poor condition upon reflection (stupid inexperienced me didnt realise at the time) and has been difficult to bring up. I was told he had been wormed and flead; although he didnt have any symptoms of worms, I did notice when he got home that he was crawling with fleas, which was an nightmare as he was too small to treat with spot-on (only the horrible Frontline spray which is a pain in the butt to use) and Frazier is allergic to fleas! Unfortunately I think this was an example of a very poor breeder churning out kittens, and I would not knowingly support such a scenario again.

Noah on the other hand (touch wood) is an absolute angel so far, and had been flead prior to me getting him. His siblings were being rehomed to family, which I found quite endearing. He was also well-used to being handled and is quite independent. I have no issues with paying the money I did for him, as he has clearly been raised with love and care. £100 is around average in the area I live, with some people advertising for even more and still managing to sell. I dont necessarily think that it is correct practise, but at the end of the day I wouldnt have my boys any other way. Their cost hasnt been influential in how they have been raised with me; if they had been free I would have treated them exactly the same! :)

[heather]

I paid £35 for my little fluffball. The lady is getting her cats neutered soon so the money went towards that and also to weed out some impulse buyers and bad people. At the same time I saw the advert there were some others who wanted £150 for a non-pedigree kitten, I could hardly believe my eyes. At that price it was so obvious they were just after making money.

[Loki_2hot]

Poor little cat! But in truth, would you pay £100 for a little moggie? Perhaps I'm really behind the times and I can't speak, as I've never paid any money for either of my cats. Merlin was passed on to me and it was either that or he would have been "disposed of" and Smudge chose me to be her carer.christ that's about A$250 you could go to the RSPCA and get 2 that have been desexed and all their needles for the same price :roll:

[Loki_2hot]

:cry:
Its a sad fact that people use cats to make money you only need to look in all the free ads to see it dsh kittens being sold for £20 to £100 and most haven't had any vet treatment but when there are people out there that will pay the money it isnt going to stop :evil: , then on the other hand you have free kittens what happens to them from what I hear some of them are used for more breeding or sent to labs for tests ect,

People are now selling crosses for £190 +, I know when I got my ragdoll I had to sign a contract saying that I would have her spayed and had to supply proof to the breeder before I got my pedagree cert:) . down here unless your a register breeder all kittens are sold desexed, wormed and fully vac's

[Hollyp]

christ that's about A$250 you could go to the RSPCA and get 2 that have been desexed and all their needles for the same price :roll:

I went down this route. :-D

[Loki_2hot]

:cry:
Its a sad fact that people use cats to make money you only need to look in all the free ads to see it dsh kittens being sold for £20 to £100 and most haven't had any vet treatment but when there are people out there that will pay the money it isnt going to stop :evil: , then on the other hand you have free kittens what happens to them from what I hear some of them are used for more breeding or sent to labs for tests ect,

People are now selling crosses for £190 +, I know when I got my ragdoll I had to sign a contract saying that I would have her spayed and had to supply proof to the breeder before I got my pedagree cert:) .

lets admit it doesn't matter what type of animal it is, there is always some one who will make a quick buck on it as they see it if a registed breeder can do it so can I and to make more just cut corners, down here in spring/summer the rspca had free desexing for cats. I think dogs could have been included but its a step in the right direction

[Kay]

lets admit it doesn't matter what type of animal it is, there is always some one who will make a quick buck on it as they see it if a registed breeder can do it so can I and to make more just cut corners, down here in spring/summer the rspca had free desexing for cats. I think dogs could have been included but its a step in the right direction

I would just like to point out that genuine breeders who do everything correctly e.g. Feed good quality food to all their cats not just the kittens, vaccinate, test for possible hereditary conditions in their particular breed, keep the kittens until after the vaccinations, register, give kitten packs may, if they are lucky, break even but very very rarely make a quick buck.

I object to being labelled alongside people who mate any breed/colour/pattern with any other breed/colour/pattern regardless of Breeding Policies, don't vaccinate and sell the kittens at 6 - 8 weeks of age. Those people do make money out of their kittens and at the detriment of the kittens, parents of the kittens and the breed involved. Genuine breeders do not.