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26-12-2007, 09:24 PM   #11

Re: Would you buy a pedigree cat if?


I would definitely report it to the relevant breed clubs. It may just be someone starting out but it doesn't sound like it.



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11-01-2008, 02:07 PM   #12

Re: Would you buy a pedigree cat if?


Update on this - the website has now been updated with more information and all cats have now got the site owners prefix BUT the breeders of the cats have been traced for some of the cats and they ARE on the non active register and were sold as pets but not early neutered.

They are also breeding Devons with Sphynx which is a bit in breeding circles in this country.



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11-01-2008, 03:29 PM   #13

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Has the breeder been reported? She/he needs shot!



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11-01-2008, 04:05 PM   #14

Re: Would you buy a pedigree cat if?


Sadly these things do happen and people do buy kittens / cats on the active register and go on and breed them. Usually they claim it was an accidental mating that took them by surprise (yeah right!). If you know a cat has to be neutered / spayed by a certain age there should be no surprises in an ideal world.
Sadly again there is not a lot breeders can do about it if a cat has been sold on non active register and still been bred from. The only possible solution to this is for breeders to withhold pink slips until proof of spaying / neutering has been seen but then thats not fool proof if someone is hell bent on breeding regardless.
I can always remember one such person contacting me when i first started breeding asking for an active registered price of a queen, when i told her she then said whats the pet price which in turn i told her. I also made a point of saying the cats pink slip would be withheld until proof of spaying had been seen as by this point i had smelt a rat and my instincts didn't pick up good vibes. She then proceeded to ask what if the cat got pregnant by accident. Needless to say a few choice words were exchanged and she didnt get one of my kittens.

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11-01-2008, 04:29 PM   #15

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Actually in this case the breeder is being reported to Trading Standards so hopefully there will be some comeback and will be reported to GCCF as well.



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11-01-2008, 04:40 PM   #16

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Great!!! Will you let us know what happens?



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11-01-2008, 11:35 PM   #17

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Fingers crossed something will come of it.

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31-01-2008, 12:30 AM   #18

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This is the very reason that all my kittens, without exception, are sold with a contract and pet kittens with a spay/neuter agreement. I have had an occasion to consult a solicitor on the legal implications of my contract when I took back Eddie and Jilly for neglect and was told that the contract is legal and binding. I could have gone to court if the person involved had refused to give me the cats back. So their are things breeders can do if they have a good contract.



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31-01-2008, 02:17 PM   #19

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Thing is Kay most breeders contracts are "legal and binding" but that does not mean they are enforceable in a Court of Law.

In fact it is the opinion of most lawyers I know that many breeders contracts whilst all legal and valid contracts would not be enforced by a Court at all as Courts can take a dim view of someone selling an animal but trying to retain control and place conditions

It still requires people to be genuine therefore!



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31-01-2008, 02:31 PM   #20

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Then I must have a very good solicitor as he has gone to court with such contracts and won. He told me that the person concerned in my case would not have a leg to stand on in court.
The reason breeders do not take it any further isn't because they don't stand a chance, although that is probably what they will tell people, it is because it can be expensive and drawn out. But I guess it all depends on how much a certain breeder wants too protect their babies.



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