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Bellakatz
27-07-2005, 04:08 PM
Hello
Looking for yet more info and to pick peoples brains

My friend who breeds,wormed her kittens yesterday with Panacur paste
This morning she got up to find a kitten dead :( :( :(

Bless her,she is so devastated
I dont use Panacur,I use Milbemax

Just wondered what people use,and what ages they started worming kittens

smudgley
27-07-2005, 04:18 PM
Oh dear - well I know that there was trouble with panacur *liquid* years ago (many years ago) & I know of cases where pups were born with problems & it was linked to the panacur - but that was when worming bitches during pregnancy (which they still recommend is done) but I think the ingredients / dosage has been altered.

I use the paste for pups / kittens.

Puppies are done @ 2 weeks (3 day course) & again @ 5 weeks (3 day course) never had a problem. I tend to do the kittens a bit older - but I never worm pregnant animals & never will.

How old was the kitten?
How many graduations did she use?
Is she having a PM done on the kitten?

PS --I was involved in a worming trial / study involving milbemax :shock:

Bellakatz
27-07-2005, 04:24 PM
I always worm my girls before they go to stud

I useed Panacur last year and lost a complete litter of kittens
After speaking to a few breeders who told me they had also had problems with Panacur ,i switched to Milbemax


My vet also advised me not to use Panacur as it is to Harsh on the poor kittys stomachs

I also lost a kitten this morning,i have battled from day one with her
She was born so tiny and never wanted to grow...
Rest in peace little one and Puddin

smudgley
27-07-2005, 04:26 PM
Whoops - I just edited my above post & then you had already posted :oops:

smudgley
27-07-2005, 04:28 PM
I agree that dogs / cats should be wormed prior to being mated - but I wouldn't worm again till after the babies were born.

Is your friend going to have a PM done?

Bellakatz
27-07-2005, 04:43 PM
The kitten was Eight weeks old

Not sure what graduation she used.this was his first dose yesterday

Her vet advised her to worm at 8,10 .12 weeks

Yes she is getting the kitten pm.


Smudgley,if you dont mind me asking hpow did the trial go with Milemax


I have had no bother with it,but know other breeders that have

It is so hard,we all just want to do the right thing by our babies

Bengal Babe
27-07-2005, 04:56 PM
OMG BellaKatz - that is SO sad
I am sorry for your loss - poor baby she is in full health now and playing hard on the bridge -

RIP sweetpea - give my Zak and Beau a heatbutt and tell them I love them
and to wait for me

Bellakatz
27-07-2005, 05:01 PM
Thanks Bengal Babe :-D :-D :-D

Azz
27-07-2005, 05:02 PM
I use Pancur liquid with cheetah - it's really easy to adminsiter and she has it like a good girl :)

I cant remb what age we started worming her :oops:

Bellakatz
27-07-2005, 05:08 PM
AZZ..I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PICCCYS OF CHEETAH :-D :-D :-D

Azz
27-07-2005, 05:36 PM
Haven't taken any new ones of her for ages.. but heres an old one!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/azzzz/ch1.jpg

promise to take some more once the houes is done (and a bit more presentable! lol)

Bellakatz
27-07-2005, 05:39 PM
She is a stunner :-D :-D :-D

Azz
27-07-2005, 05:55 PM
Thanks :) shes mad!

Fran
27-07-2005, 06:34 PM
I agree that dogs / cats should be wormed prior to being mated - but I wouldn't worm again till after the babies were born

I worm my dogs day 40 in whelp to 2 days post whelp with no problems up to now ...I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this though as Maddie is approaching day 40 and if convinced I wouldn't worm her????
Ps Smudgley I sent you a pm this morning but it is still in my outbox for some reason :?

smudgley
27-07-2005, 06:57 PM
PK is it ok if I e-mail you?

Bella ~ the worming trial was prior to the product being licensed - better not say any more other than - all was good & no probs & it's now a licensed product. ;-)

Fran
27-07-2005, 06:59 PM
Yes please do Smudgley :-)

Fran
27-07-2005, 07:00 PM
Haven't taken any new ones of her for ages.. but heres an old one!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/azzzz/ch1.jpg

promise to take some more once the houes is done (and a bit more presentable! lol)

Azz....she is soooooo gorgeous!!

smudgley
27-07-2005, 07:26 PM
huge e-mail on way :shock:

Fran
27-07-2005, 07:29 PM
Thanks Smudgley...will wait for it to arrive :-D

Bengal Babe
27-07-2005, 08:31 PM
Haven't taken any new ones of her for ages.. but heres an old one!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/azzzz/ch1.jpg

promise to take some more once the houes is done (and a bit more presentable! lol)

I'm on my way to collect my NEW BENGAL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

SHE IS A STUNNER Azz - you must be so proud of her

Mags
27-07-2005, 08:34 PM
I bet she is as gorgeous as ever Azz!

Bellakatz
28-07-2005, 08:24 AM
Haven't taken any new ones of her for ages.. but heres an old one!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/azzzz/ch1.jpg

promise to take some more once the houes is done (and a bit more presentable! lol)

I'm on my way to collect my NEW BENGAL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

SHE IS A STUNNER Azz - you must be so proud of her

Bengal Babe....I saw her first....she is mine :-D :-D
Anyway you have 12 kittens to collect from me :wink: :wink:

Bellakatz
28-07-2005, 09:30 AM
PK is it ok if I e-mail you?

Bella ~ the worming trial was prior to the product being licensed - better not say any more other than - all was good & no probs & it's now a licensed product. ;-)


Thank you Smudgley for all your help and advice

It is really appreciated :-D :-D :-D :-D

smudgley
28-07-2005, 12:09 PM
Just to add - hands off you lot - :evil:
if Azz needs a home for that Spotted Beauty - she's so mine :-D

Mags
28-07-2005, 01:23 PM
Sorry, I've got first offer! :-D :-D :-D