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LauraBehjet
10-07-2013, 10:04 AM
I am hoping for a chinchilla persian kitten, I live in a rented house so I have to ask my landlady first.
She already let us have a dog so hopefully she doesn't think we're being too cheeky enquiring about a cat too!

Assuming we can have a kitty, I would really like a chinchilla persian. Actually, I would like a white doll faced persian but the chinchilla seems to be the only nice, normal faced persian I can find. And it's almost white!

I found a really good breeder, then, I found a few things that threw me.

1. She bred a beautiful cat that did very well in the shows. I think her new owner was planning to breed her, then, she died suddenly of a heart attack!

Now, the breeder said that the vet thought she may have had a heart murmur and it was one of those things that could happen to anyone. I asked other breeders and they all agreed that it was probably unlikely to be an inherited defect and don't let it put you off. So I put it to the back of the mind.

2. Then, I found a study on google saying that hypertrophic cardiomyopathy is a problem in Persians, up to 40% could be affected! It is an inherited disease and causes sudden heart attacks....
I have yet to find a single breeder who screens their Persians for HCM!?!?!?!

3. This breeder is pkd negative, which is great. But one of her breeding cats just died at 11 from cysts on the kidneys?

This post isn't meant as a breeder bash, I genuinely like her and until I found out the above points I was 100% certain that if we can have a cat, I would buy from her.

Just want people's opinions as I obviously want a cat that is in the best of health and its a lot of money for a cat that could be unhealthy.

angieh
10-07-2013, 11:38 AM
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Hi Laura! I have no experience of Persian cats nor of breeding but there are a few Persian owners on this forum so I hope that they will see your post and offer advise.

Personally, with all the moggies in rescue needing good caring homes, I'd opt for one of those, but that's just my opinion.

LauraBehjet
10-07-2013, 11:58 AM
Hope so!

I am not against rescue cats, My siamese cross was from a pound. i Just really fancy a chinchilla.

Kim
10-07-2013, 02:47 PM
Welcome to Catsey. I have no experience of Persians either as I too always opt for rescues.

Feliss
16-07-2013, 01:30 PM
All I can say is do enough research so that you feel you can make as an informed decision as possible. Any cat can get ill at the end of the day.

My personal opinion is that if you wanted a healthy cat, then don't get a persian. They're not the healthiest of the bunch.

What is it that you like about the persian? Are there similar qualities in healthier breeds?

LauraBehjet
16-07-2013, 01:39 PM
This is true.

Hmm, I hate the conventional persian with the squashed face.
I like the old fashioned, doll face Persians which have the thick coat and cobby body but a nice normal face.

Unfortunately, only America seems to have them, the chinchilla persian is the closest alternative as they have a longer nose.

Sigh. I might just get a moggy kitten from a rescue.
I refuse to pay money for deliberately bred mogs on pets4homes and the like and would love a doll face or chinchilla persian but its a lot of money and I am really concerned not so much about the health problems in the breed but the fact that breeders seem to acknowledge pkd only. As if no other disease exists!!

I don't know if a rescue will rehome to us though, rented house, a 4 year old, second baby on the way soon probably plus a border collie!

Feliss
16-07-2013, 02:46 PM
There are pros and cons to rescues and pedigrees. With either, as long as you know you can give them everything they need for their total lifespan, then that's the main thing.

Please ensure you're not supporting a byb though. Ensure any breeder is doing it for the love of the breed, and their main goal is for health and character, not looks and shows.

It might be worth enquiring with rescue charities. You won't know until you ask!

If you do go for a pedigree, really do think about what you can commit to give your cat for the short-term and long-term, and what kind of relationship you want with it. I wanted vocal characters that had an energy for life and that were an active part in my life. I knew I could dedicate a lot of my time as I work from home partially, so that and various other reasons meant I went with oriental/siamese :)

LauraBehjet
16-07-2013, 02:51 PM
I have always had cats since i was a young child and not looking for any particular trait really.

I love the look of long hair and love grooming it and making it look pretty so I'd like a longhaired cat but I have no preference for energy levels or personality really.

I am home all day :)

My dad used to be a Siamese breeder and my last cat was a Siamese cross, they are lovely cats.

Feliss
16-07-2013, 03:05 PM
If you're not looking for anything in particular, then perhaps there's a long haired rescue kitty out there waiting for a forever home? Let us know what happens :)

yola
29-07-2013, 10:16 PM
I have had Persians for 16 years; the initial two as kittens from breeders and two subsequent rescues. My first - a blue boy - was from a (I now realise) suspect breeder and although sickly as a kitten, he was with us for 13 years. The second was a doll-faced lilac cream and she was with us for 14 years. She was beautifully bred for looks and temperament by a highly ethical breeder who I think is now retired. Neither were particularly susceptible to illness and were on the whole quite healthy until almost the end.

The first rescue persian died suddenly in our care - I suspect of a sudden heart attack, and the second rescue is still with our family and going stong at 7 years of age.

If you have any specific questions I'd be happy to answer them.

tilly
30-07-2013, 01:38 AM
here is a link to some persian rescues if you were looking into that root. I can't offer any advice as I don't have persian cats. hope the links help
Sally
http://www.chapelhouse-persians.co.uk/daisy.htm

http://www.thorneywoodcatrescue.com/catsforadoption.htm

http://www.stfrancisrescue.co.uk/Homes%20Needed-01.html

http://www.london-persian-rescue.co.uk/available-persians.php

There a re loads more just google persian rescue and lots come up.

Ps hope the links are OK to post.

PoshPuss
30-07-2013, 09:39 AM
Hello Laura

My persian walked into my life as a stray but found out later she was being bred from, I have no idea how she began her life though. I know that she has been cared for like a queen since, :) my vet is happy with her but she is delicate, has few teeth left and tends to get upset tummies.

She is not a squashed face persian but has a flat nose, and a gorgeous face, but then again I'm biased. :) I'm sure you will find a pretty persian in a rescue somewhere so please consider that option.

Yola has a had a few persians and is my 'phone a friend' helper.All the best in your search.