View Full Version : What does the future hold for Orey?
borderdawn
06-11-2007, 11:01 PM
Just an update really. Orey is now 8 and a half months old. He is a very "work oriented" border with loads of drive and stamina. My intention was to show and work him as I have done with the others, but now Im not so sure. Since having my back op and getting back to normal I have been doing the ringcraft etc.. but he is completely uninterested, not the slightest bit interested. He LOVES the judges, LOVES the other dogs, but HATES standing still and quickly becomes flat and bored. :roll: I wont show a dog that doesnt enjoy it, its pointless, expensive and a waste of time, so what shall I do with him? :?
He has an excellent nose, will search relentlessly for toys that you hide, in or out of the house, so developing that is an option. His retrieving and marking is also good, and up till now he shows a soft mouth when retrieving. I havent done any proper "terrier" work, due to the ban and the lack of work in this area, coupled with me being ill, he has yet to see what he should be all about. I dont doubt his keeness, he shows real interest in anything fluffy :-D I think Ill have to get him some Ratting to see how he gets on.
Im a bit confused at present, he should be doing something now, I guess its me that needs to sort it out not him! :)
Orey at 8mths.
http://wwwdogsey.com/pics/5613Sony Ericsson K800i 012 [640x480].jpg
He's a stunning boy Dawn, hope you can both sort out what's best for him..:D
Meanwhile we are happy enough to see photos of you gorgeous boy! :-D
smudgley
06-11-2007, 11:17 PM
You could try some obedience & agility with him? Have you thought about that or even flyball?
He's at a funny age, so maybe if he's not that tuned into showing, perhaps it's just his age & maybe he'll enjoy it more if you carryon with him, but I agree noone wants to see a "flat" pup in the ring.
Do some terrier work with him & get him over an agility course!
borderdawn
06-11-2007, 11:22 PM
Thanks both. :D
Im not the flyball, agility type Smudgley, Im not keen on dog "sports" never have been, although I admit flyball would probably be his thing! Im thankfull you didnt mention dancing with dogs, or Id of been round there to slap you with a big stick!! :-D
I hope he will enjoy showing later, perhaps when he learns to concentrate more, but its pointless the way he is at the moment, he thinks its crap! :-D :roll:
Well he's a cutie that's for sure!! I agree, what about some agility?? I also agree that his disinterest in showing could just be his age??
smudgley
06-11-2007, 11:27 PM
Maybe he's heard about all the poloitics involved with showing & decided he'd rather not bother :-D
A dancing BT :-D noooooooooo! We'll leave that to the BC's ;)
No idea about showing or working dogs, but will say that little fella has a gorgeous face, he is obviously concentrating on something..
random
07-11-2007, 12:13 AM
Ahh dancing with Dawn and Orey, how lovely! :mrgreen:
Sounds like he'd be more suited to going down the working route then Dawn and then maybe as he matures he might change his view on showing. I say this as I knew a couple of Parsons at our ringcraft when Maddy was a pup, littermates, a dog and a bitch and they didn't seem interested 'til well into their second year and then they just changed dramtically and started showing their socks off. We had tried allsorts to keep their interest as pups but they were far to interested in the world around them and showing was obviously oh so boring. I noticed the owners seemed to expect it of them, they weren't surprised at all. I'm not up on my terrier breeds really so not sure if it is commonplace? Or maybe just the lines. Saying that they did do well despite their lack of enthusiasm for the ring but i'm like you, if my dog didn't like it I wouldn't carry on doing it, hence why I stopped with Maddy as soon as she became uncomfortable in the ring, despite being told to persue it with her.
Grete
07-11-2007, 01:13 AM
Not up on showing / training but he is a gorgeous pooch :)
borderdawn
07-11-2007, 10:07 AM
Many thanks.
Ive never had a problem before Random, Borders are sooooo greedy keeping their attention has never been an issue. The only thing I can think is that he wasnt taken to game fairs etc.. nor ringcraft right from when he was able to up untill September time because of my back. He was walked and socialised and is the most pleasant dog to everyone and everything he meets, but to stand still is just impossible!
I think Ill sort out a bit of ratting, see what he thinks of that, thing is if he starts working reasonably hard, he'll get marked and it will be pointless showing him then anyway!! We'll see, thanks for all your suggestions.
Dawn.
Ratting may well be his thing Dawn either that or find someone who drag hunts ;)
Sal is the same though adores the udges the other dogs the audience. Especialy the hot dog sellers. But hates standing Tess has never had a go as its not my thing really. But my two adore flyball.
Elaine
09-11-2007, 10:08 PM
Can I ask what flyball is? I know there is a clue in the name, is it just a game or is it something more?
Personally I think Oreys future is with me:lol: :lol: :lol:
borderdawn
09-11-2007, 11:30 PM
Its running over a set of jumps, pushing the pad at the end and a tennis ball pops off! The dog has to catch the ball and bring it back over the jumps, as fast as he can!
Im sure if you had Orey, he would be back with me by return of post!! He isnt the easiest dog I have ever had, he's a fruit loop!
Elaine
10-11-2007, 09:33 AM
Its running over a set of jumps, pushing the pad at the end and a tennis ball pops off! The dog has to catch the ball and bring it back over the jumps, as fast as he can!
Im sure if you had Orey, he would be back with me by return of post!! He isnt the easiest dog I have ever had, he's a fruit loop!
Eva is the most difficult cat I have ever had and I wouldnt part with her:-D
Donna
10-11-2007, 03:55 PM
He is gorgeous. But cant comment on what you should do with him as I have never owned a dog. Cant he just be a pet or because of his breed does he has to do something?
borderdawn
10-11-2007, 05:21 PM
He is gorgeous. But cant comment on what you should do with him as I have never owned a dog. Cant he just be a pet or because of his breed does he has to do something?
Thanks Donna.
To do nothing isnt an option for a working terrier breed, they need to do something, people believing they make good pets only, is what has given Border welfare a huge task in rehoming young energetic dogs that dissappear down holes and chase everything that moves. They are a breed that gets into trouble. :-D
Thanks Donna.
To do nothing isnt an option for a working terrier breed, they need to do something, people believing they make good pets only, is what has given Border welfare a huge task in rehoming young energetic dogs that dissappear down holes and chase everything that moves. They are a breed that gets into trouble. :-D
A bit like a Stafford really :) The major reason and age for rehoming is 10/12months- 3/4 years and the major reason too lively I think. (even if the people say other things). However I think you get used to the breed and what one person considers a nightmare a Stafford owner considers easy peasy..:roll: ...thats because Staffs drive you to insanity and beyond.:-D
Donna
10-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Thanks ladies!! So what dogs would you class as ideal just as a pet... just so I get the idea!! Or are all dogs designed to do somethng?
borderdawn
10-11-2007, 07:57 PM
Good first pet IMO, a well bred Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.
Yes I would say thats about right, although a few dogs were bred to be nothing more, nothing less than pets.
The Shihtzu, bichon frise to name a couple. but have to say a CKCS is just about the best option for a new starter but always from a good breeder as they are prone to heart and eye troubles.
Are you considering having a dog then?
random
11-11-2007, 12:38 AM
All dogs were bred to do something, from just being a pet or lapdog, to hunting down wild animals.
Although a lot of them still retain strong instincts on their origional purpose, a lot of dogs never do the 'job' the breed was created for and are perfectly happy being 'just pets'. Some breeds however are not very happy being 'just pets' as they have such high instincts and energy levels in there genes.
It also depends what lines they come from, this means what their parents/grandparents/great grandparents and so on did in their lifetime.
A typical debatable breed is the border collie. Working collies that come from working parents/grandparents e.t.c are not usually happy being just pets and they really want to work and are too highly strung in a pet only environment.
On the other hand a lot of border collies from different lines live perfectly happy lives in a pet only home as many of their ancestors have never seen a sheep in generations.
Hope that's not too confusing!
Basically some breeds will make better pets than others, some need an owner who is 100% sure of the breed and what they are doing, and will then go on to make nice pets. But there are quite a few breeds for first time owners that make absolutely wonderful pets.
random
11-11-2007, 12:41 AM
Oops forgot to add I agree on the Cavs, wonderful wee dogs! :-D
Donna
11-11-2007, 11:50 AM
Yes I would say thats about right, although a few dogs were bred to be nothing more, nothing less than pets.
The Shihtzu, bichon frise to name a couple. but have to say a CKCS is just about the best option for a new starter but always from a good breeder as they are prone to heart and eye troubles.
Are you considering having a dog then?
No!!! Just curious really. Am more a cat person and I couldnt give a dog time. I work six days a week so it would be unfair to keep a dog at home all that time. Its just an interesting topic :-D
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